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These endless wars have been one of the main ways of inducing the US to destroy itself, and to allow international finance to run the opium trade. In the Hemland province alone, opium production skyrocketed 400% under British occupation.

Afghanistan was and is a key opium producer for the international drug trade.

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This is gonna be fun to watch. A virulent form of fundamentalist Islam is going to oppress the living hell out of a bunch of Stone Age poverty riven illiterate cavemen and especially their women. A 20 year very successful project of transferring wealth from the US taxpayer to corporate military interests is winding down. Those who died, died for nothing, we return from whence we came.

The best outcome would be to do business with the Taliban and in exchange for not bombing the hell out of them ask them to minimize their atrocities. It should be easy to manage because the media is compliant and simply need to be asked not to cover Afghanistan anymore. Mission accomplished - again.

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I don't plug myself into the Sunday Talk Shows so I'm guessing here, but I'd bet my mythical pile of one million dollars that the points Caitlin made are not discussed, the lessions learned remain obscured, the guilty remain free, the political criminality remains unpunished, and the unvarnished lies continue to receive nods of approval from our lettered betters thousands of miles removed from the action.

In other words, Washington staggers from one messy murdering blunder to the next unscathed.

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Zbigniew Brzezinski with someone that looks like a young Osama bin Laden: https://www.workers.org/2017/06/31585/ and https://thefreethoughtproject.com/zbigniew-brzenski-dead-89/ this would be February 3, 1980

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Ali Ahmad Jalali went up on twitter to call Frud Bezhan's tweet a bunch of fake news.

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Well, they certainly did not GAF about the Afghani women, as HRC and GW recently restated! Did I post this already?

GW destroyed the Afghani underground railroad for women. RAWA had secret routes in and out of Pakistan to help women escape. They begged GW not to invade, that they, RAWA, knew Osama was in Pakistan and because of their work they could deliver Bin Laden to him. GW and HRC love women so much, they invaded and did not take the advice of those saving women's lives. These routes that took decades to build, were destroyed.

Was it any wonder Bin Laden was found in plain sight?

I was member of Women in Black, did regular vigils, got informed. this is little known history that got buried. So, when HRC and the others were feigning AGAIN that they GAF about the women, I just screamed. Why not work with RAWA and Pakistan more closely?

See:

Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan - GW destroyed them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Association_of_the_Women_of_Afghanistan

https://www.liberationnews.org/using-womens-rights-to-html/?fbclid=IwAR1FVFm6ckG6LtYa8utPOOVe4cqYE1OPRQc4txcX13cYmFV4_7JnsSa-pIk

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Shitlibs are hypocrites Caitlin tells us. True enough. But I see the bigger problem as overreach, the endless arrogance and hubris of the left thinking they can manage everything. Do you ever notice a preponderance of losers on the left - people who have never ever done anything. How could they possibly know how to run things?

I think clearly the libertarian position makes the most sense. Actual hard science can achieve great marvels. In the social sciences we are duplicitous shitheads that make everything worse - stop! I think the libertarian position is that government is the enemy give people money and leave them alone, government doesn’t know better.

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http://cup.columbia.edu/book/schools-for-conflict-or-for-peace-in-afghanistan/9780231169288

"Dana Burde shows how aid to education in Afghanistan bolstered conflict both deliberately in the 1980s through violence-infused, anti-Soviet curricula and inadvertently in the 2000s through misguided stabilization programs."

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I agree with your analysis would only add that the sudden power of the Taliban in the same proportion of the fear that has become of the invaders has to do with the growing power of Russia and China. You can see that at the beginning of the week that has now ended, we had Merkle's trip to Russia to meet Vladimir Putin. We have to think about what was pending in the business with Russia and what was of enormous importance to this sudden outcome. Not as sudden as it sounds

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What you're saying makes sense, Caitlin, but I sure hope it's not the reality.

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It's 'just' business as always.

"Torn by four decades of war and desperate poverty, Afghanistan is believed to be sitting on one of the richest troves of minerals in the world. The value of these resources has been roughly estimated between $1-3 trillion."

"Afghanistan has vast reserves of gold, platinum, silver, copper, iron, chromite, lithium, uranium, and aluminium. The country’s high-quality emeralds, rubies, sapphires, turquoise, and lapis lazuli have long charmed the gemstone market. The United States Geological Survey (USGS), through its extensive scientific research of minerals, concluded that Afghanistan may hold 60 million metric tons of copper, 2.2 billion tons of iron ore, 1.4 million tons of rare earth elements (REEs) such as lanthanum, cerium, neodymium, and veins of aluminium, gold, silver, zinc, mercury, and lithium."

https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/afghanistans-mineral-resources-are-a-lost-opportunity-and-a-threat/#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20Geological%20Survey%20%28USGS%29%2C%20through%20its,of%20aluminium%2C%20gold%2C%20silver%2C%20zinc%2C%20mercury%2C%20and%20lithium.

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I'm going to gamble now (August 15th) and predict that US re-invades or bombs the hell out of Kabul to avoid a reprise of "The Vietnam Syndrome". We'll see,

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Trump’s Pledge to Exit Afghanistan Was a Ruse, His Final SecDef Says - Defense One

https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2021/08/trumps-pledge-exit-afghanistan-was-ruse-his-final-secdef-says/184660/

Trump’s Pledge to Exit Afghanistan Was a Ruse, His Final SecDef Says. Chris Miller now says talk of a full withdrawal was a “play” to convince a Taliban-led government to keep U.S. counterterrorism forces.

Perhaps Biden should be given Nobel Peace prize instead to swindler Obama...

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I think most people forget the poppy and opium production in Afghanistan making them the world leader in this drug production, which the taliban tried to stop. This drug essentially funds their corrupt government and US government and CIA, and the US military actively protects these fields.

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Well perhaps it’s more or less always been war for war and war profiteering sake. Nothing noble here. Possibly the profits have turned to liabilities. I guess the opium cartel is secure, and the Taliban have learned a lot about modern ways of terrorism and occupation from USA and Australian “engagements”.

If terroristic, misogynistic, child trafficing and pedophilia warlords from around the capitalist world are now cohorts of the Taliban lords, then I’m not surprised; water flows in the way of least resistance

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