Listen to a reading of this article: If you say you oppose Russia because you're an anti-imperialist but you don't oppose the US empire for its role in starting and perpetuating this war, then you're a liar. You don't oppose Russia because you're an anti-imperialist, you oppose Russia because you're an imperialist.
People who are against Russia in this Ukraine/US/ EU conflict are either totally ignorant of the situation, or hopelessly brainwashed. They are working against their own best interests as well, more ignorance compounded by stupidity, and are against the only side with a rational and just position, as pitiful and regrettable as is the plight of all Ukrainians, at the hands of EU/US machinations. And this brainwashed/ignorant element are pitted against a superpower, to boot, that is determined not to suffer the terrible harm and losses unjustly inflicted on it during WW II. There are no salient facts or conclusions other than these.
I find your writing laudable. Against all odds, you work tirelessly to rouse people to get off their bottoms and protest the drive to world war in the (probably forlorn) hope that they can be motivated to save their lives and livelihoods from the certain destruction such a war would mean. My belief is that people won’t heed your call. They sense that the power elites who control our countries have sealed off what small chance popular opposition to such a war might have of succeeding. Our fates would be that of the Canadian truckers or worse: confiscation of our assets, loss of our jobs, beatings, jail, and worse, all to no avail. My belief is that our fates are actually in the hands of Putin, Xi, Modi, and others whose power to confute our rulers is both real and more intelligently and patiently wielded than our rulers wield theirs. Their goal is to let the clock run out on our rulers’ ability to precipitate violence in their lands, until the rotten foundations of our rulers’ power begin to finally give way. Let’s hope their wisdom prevails. In the meantime we should understand that Ukraine is only a small part of this larger, currently mostly economic struggle to force the western oligarchs to yield their hegemony and inaugurate a more multipolar world order. The Russians will settle Ukraine’s fate as and when it best suits their interests, as well as China’s interests and the interests of other major non-Western powers.
Thank you Ms Caitlin, as always! As you have a big audience (and are attacked round the clock on Twitter), I wanted to point out a really scary movie for people that find Nuclear War cool or winnable or whatever, it is old 'The Day After' (Jason Robards), it is on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyy9n8r16hs
and made me 'see the light' when I was about 25 (I am 66 now). Probably worth a try? Thank you!
It doesn't end with celebrities, although they surely like being celebrities and want to keep liking their role as celebrities, not cast into Outer Darkness like those who didn't wave the flag for the War On Iraq.
Just wrote to one of my senators (unfortunately, Tom Cotton) and asked if he wanted his family to die in a nuclear war caused by this attempt to weaken Russia. Can't wait to see his response.
My disappointment in the ability of the general public to understand what is happening around the world always was pretty significant. That disappointment magnified during the covid, when nearly everyone wandered around with a useless mask and stood at least 6 feet from each other. At that point I thought the human race was doomed to suffer whatever calamities the uber-wealthy decided to foist on them.
But, I didn't think then, but I understand now, that the same ideological bent that caused people to take to the streets in opposition to the war in Vietnam no longer exists in this country, replaced, through incessant propaganda, with a warmongering mentality that defies understanding. During Vietnam, much of the angst against the war stemmed from the draft; young men simply did not want to be forced into service that was killing thousands of their peers. Today, young people and their families are not directly affected by the war in Ukraine, so there is not that sense of urgency that we saw during the Vietnam war. That their wealth and their potential future are at dire risk because of the moronic neocons in DC waging a war for continued hegemony is an idea that either flies over their heads or triggers no real concern, unlike the prices of eggs and marijuana. I don't think there is a formula that will awaken these people; they won't see the nuclear blast coming, anyway.
Work is like 2 weeks behind on processing my paperwork for short term disability, I just spent most of the money I have left one groceries, and I just got a past due notice for my electric bill. I don’t really care about Russia right now honestly <3 good read tho
I pretty much agree with everything Caitlin says in this article, and that Tucker Carlson says on his broadcasts, about the Ukraine War. Well done, Caitlin!
I do have one question. While I am willing to believe that our oligarchs often elevate many celebrities to the top, just 20 years ago, all of these celebrities (like Sean Penn) were against the U.S.'s war against Iraq. And 98% of them were Democrats. But now, they are all supporting the continuation of this war, which could lead to atomic death for all.
What changed these celebrities minds away from peace, and toward war?
"People whose opinions are grounded in facts and logic don't need to resort to accusing those who disagree with them of being secret agents working for foreign governments."
Bingo! All the mindless NAFO "fellas" and their rude comments are a strong example of this fact. When you've got no information to refute another person's statement, you act like an eight-year-old and post potty humor memes.
How little they realize. One nuke begets a response. That is two. They are battlefield nukes. Strategic. A couple of days later. Another one, then two more. No conventional combat systems are left. The fallout is kept quiet by the media.
Move on to high altitude taking out electronics. Comms go down.
Then the power is out. Then they just start lobbing these things around the planet because there is no turning back and we are fighting fires or burning in them.
Maybe they wake up at 4. I doubt it.
While stationed at NORAD the scenario and military exercises always ended with the world a big nuclear wasteland.
The irony of Zelensky being given an Oscar for his performance is just too perfect.
People who are against Russia in this Ukraine/US/ EU conflict are either totally ignorant of the situation, or hopelessly brainwashed. They are working against their own best interests as well, more ignorance compounded by stupidity, and are against the only side with a rational and just position, as pitiful and regrettable as is the plight of all Ukrainians, at the hands of EU/US machinations. And this brainwashed/ignorant element are pitted against a superpower, to boot, that is determined not to suffer the terrible harm and losses unjustly inflicted on it during WW II. There are no salient facts or conclusions other than these.
I find your writing laudable. Against all odds, you work tirelessly to rouse people to get off their bottoms and protest the drive to world war in the (probably forlorn) hope that they can be motivated to save their lives and livelihoods from the certain destruction such a war would mean. My belief is that people won’t heed your call. They sense that the power elites who control our countries have sealed off what small chance popular opposition to such a war might have of succeeding. Our fates would be that of the Canadian truckers or worse: confiscation of our assets, loss of our jobs, beatings, jail, and worse, all to no avail. My belief is that our fates are actually in the hands of Putin, Xi, Modi, and others whose power to confute our rulers is both real and more intelligently and patiently wielded than our rulers wield theirs. Their goal is to let the clock run out on our rulers’ ability to precipitate violence in their lands, until the rotten foundations of our rulers’ power begin to finally give way. Let’s hope their wisdom prevails. In the meantime we should understand that Ukraine is only a small part of this larger, currently mostly economic struggle to force the western oligarchs to yield their hegemony and inaugurate a more multipolar world order. The Russians will settle Ukraine’s fate as and when it best suits their interests, as well as China’s interests and the interests of other major non-Western powers.
Thank you Ms Caitlin, as always! As you have a big audience (and are attacked round the clock on Twitter), I wanted to point out a really scary movie for people that find Nuclear War cool or winnable or whatever, it is old 'The Day After' (Jason Robards), it is on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyy9n8r16hs
and made me 'see the light' when I was about 25 (I am 66 now). Probably worth a try? Thank you!
Arrogant cowards rule us for now. Their time is ending. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Stand in the light.
It doesn't end with celebrities, although they surely like being celebrities and want to keep liking their role as celebrities, not cast into Outer Darkness like those who didn't wave the flag for the War On Iraq.
Just wrote to one of my senators (unfortunately, Tom Cotton) and asked if he wanted his family to die in a nuclear war caused by this attempt to weaken Russia. Can't wait to see his response.
My disappointment in the ability of the general public to understand what is happening around the world always was pretty significant. That disappointment magnified during the covid, when nearly everyone wandered around with a useless mask and stood at least 6 feet from each other. At that point I thought the human race was doomed to suffer whatever calamities the uber-wealthy decided to foist on them.
But, I didn't think then, but I understand now, that the same ideological bent that caused people to take to the streets in opposition to the war in Vietnam no longer exists in this country, replaced, through incessant propaganda, with a warmongering mentality that defies understanding. During Vietnam, much of the angst against the war stemmed from the draft; young men simply did not want to be forced into service that was killing thousands of their peers. Today, young people and their families are not directly affected by the war in Ukraine, so there is not that sense of urgency that we saw during the Vietnam war. That their wealth and their potential future are at dire risk because of the moronic neocons in DC waging a war for continued hegemony is an idea that either flies over their heads or triggers no real concern, unlike the prices of eggs and marijuana. I don't think there is a formula that will awaken these people; they won't see the nuclear blast coming, anyway.
“I’m in the CIA mom!”
--Sean Penn, “The Falcon & the Snowman”
Work is like 2 weeks behind on processing my paperwork for short term disability, I just spent most of the money I have left one groceries, and I just got a past due notice for my electric bill. I don’t really care about Russia right now honestly <3 good read tho
I pretty much agree with everything Caitlin says in this article, and that Tucker Carlson says on his broadcasts, about the Ukraine War. Well done, Caitlin!
I do have one question. While I am willing to believe that our oligarchs often elevate many celebrities to the top, just 20 years ago, all of these celebrities (like Sean Penn) were against the U.S.'s war against Iraq. And 98% of them were Democrats. But now, they are all supporting the continuation of this war, which could lead to atomic death for all.
What changed these celebrities minds away from peace, and toward war?
State is out of control and is not performing in the best interest of the nation. Who are they representing
"People whose opinions are grounded in facts and logic don't need to resort to accusing those who disagree with them of being secret agents working for foreign governments."
Bingo! All the mindless NAFO "fellas" and their rude comments are a strong example of this fact. When you've got no information to refute another person's statement, you act like an eight-year-old and post potty humor memes.
Well said. Thank you Caitlin!
How little they realize. One nuke begets a response. That is two. They are battlefield nukes. Strategic. A couple of days later. Another one, then two more. No conventional combat systems are left. The fallout is kept quiet by the media.
Move on to high altitude taking out electronics. Comms go down.
Then the power is out. Then they just start lobbing these things around the planet because there is no turning back and we are fighting fires or burning in them.
Maybe they wake up at 4. I doubt it.
While stationed at NORAD the scenario and military exercises always ended with the world a big nuclear wasteland.
i have no proof of this but someone once told me Sean Penn works for the CIA and that's why he e.g. scored an exclusive interview with El Chapo