Listen to a reading of this article: Two false news reports have gone viral in recent hours due to sloppy sourcing and journalistic malpractice. As usual they both featured bogus claims about US-targeted nations, in this case Russia and Iran. An article in Responsible Statecraft titled "
I am not sure if it was really accidental. According to the S-300 specs they are supposed to detonate if they miss the target:
"0.3 seconds before the rendezvous point, the non-contact explosive device of the SAM is activated, which gives the command to detonate the BC. In the event of a large miss, the SAM will self-destruct from the BC detonation."
If you throw a missile at complete random over the border the chances of it killing anyone must be about 1/1000. If the polish journalist hadn't uploaded the S-300 wreckage to social media within an hour or two of impact, it is very unlikely the US would have 'fessed up so quickly. And we would have been treated to the G20 all lining to denounce Russia's strike on Poland.
The point is NATO missile surveillance liaises seamlessly with the Ukrainian air defense command. Every single launch, aircraft take off etc from Russia is tracked and communicated to Ukraine in real time. For all NATO's "Gosh, I wonder where this could have come from" act in public, they knew the instant of impact where it came from.
"And this is the case because the western mainstream media are the propaganda services of the US-centralized empire. They do not exist to tell people the truth, they exist to manipulate the public into hating the official enemies of the empire and into consenting to foreign policy agendas that they would not otherwise consent to."
There's the rub--we wouldn't consent to the endless proxy wars and wars for oil if it wasn't because of these propagandists. These so-called "journalists" who spin lies and pump out viral exaggerations have the blood of millions on their hands. They should all be in jail.
John Kerry " We know where the missile came from", or words similar.
Russia made, Ukraine owned and fired. Everyone knows that including John Kerry.
298 dead.
Now Poland with two dead. Russian made and possibly owned and fired by Ukraine again.
When will we all wake up to the games played by the US and its stooge, Yelenskyy supported by the collection of countries subservient to the US dictates called the North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation, primed and ready to go. Getting anxious to be part of the game.
Sooner or later, the false flag will fly and there is nobody better at it than the exceptional USA.
This morning, NPR did the worst "walk back" of the lies they broadcast. Shortly after the incident, (Tuesday morning, I think) they had an Obama State Department Deputy (high level, not some grunt) flat out state that it was a Russian missile attack and NATO would be considering triggering Article 5 (basically, a formula for WW III).
This AM, they had a RAND corporation "expert" basically walk back that lie, without admitting it was in fact a lie, and then they gave Zelinski a huge pass and again blamed Russian propaganda! Un fucking believable!
BBC writes about War crimes being committed in Ukraine, the dead bodies, the mistreatment of civilians. Big, bold headlines! If you read the entire article and not just the headlines, you will find the sentence « However, the BBC could find no evidence to support these claims ». Too late the misinformation is now viral. In the days when I worked for a well known American publication, nothing was printed until the team of assistant editors had fact checked every quote, every number through multiple different sources. If the majority were in agreement with what was in the article, it got published. If a claim cannot be substantiated, you either make that clear or you don’t publish. That to me is taking the profession seriously!
Thank you Caitlin. And - your husband Tim’s continues to be the absolutely best voice I know among all podcasts !! Pleasant to hear and very professional -- the best delivery imaginable.
In the wake of 9/11 a Ukrainian air defense shot down a Russian civilian airplane over Black Sea. As a result rumors circulated the NYC govt was to hire Ukrainians to protect against civilian aircraft.
There is a US domestic variant of the North Korea Law Of Journalism.
The closer the story comes to exposing abuses by corporate power, particularly as those abuses are enabled or promoted by Democratic Party controlled government (or deregulation, privatization, corporate subsides, and other Neoliberal policies), then there is the same evidentiary standards operating!
If news media merely applied the same principles to all their sourcing that they apply to Donald Trump, it would help. Routinely when Trump says anything, media feel compelled to add a qualifier such as "baseless" or "without any supporting evidence." The same locutions could be used with nearly any source the media lazily use.
I'm ashamed to admit that I worked in newspaper journalism for 32 years. But one useful thing I learned is that anonymous officials quoted in stories are allowed to offer seemingly independent support for their own comments. For instance, an unnamed US State Dept. official may ask to be identified that way for one comment and then demand to be identified as a "Western diplomat" in another comment in the same story. Hence it sounds as if two independent fatheads are confirming each other when it's only an echo. Reporters routinely go along with the crap.
....sorry (not really!), ''they'' (populus) deserve this!...as G. Carlin said: EDUCATION IN AMERICA, ..one is educated 'nuff' to put 2 things together, and Sunday beer and footbal.... oops and other few sports, depend on season ...
Well, the death penalty is harsh, which could explain why "a harsh sentence" could be interpreted as a death sentence - if you're very stupid. As for the the Ukraine rocket being identified by the trigger-happy as Russian, it just proves there is a death wish in the air, and we should shut such types down, free speech not-withstanding. NATO's " pause button" with the truth amounts to a gross lie, and criminal negligence.
I am not sure if it was really accidental. According to the S-300 specs they are supposed to detonate if they miss the target:
"0.3 seconds before the rendezvous point, the non-contact explosive device of the SAM is activated, which gives the command to detonate the BC. In the event of a large miss, the SAM will self-destruct from the BC detonation."
https://en.missilery.info/missile/c300v
If you throw a missile at complete random over the border the chances of it killing anyone must be about 1/1000. If the polish journalist hadn't uploaded the S-300 wreckage to social media within an hour or two of impact, it is very unlikely the US would have 'fessed up so quickly. And we would have been treated to the G20 all lining to denounce Russia's strike on Poland.
The point is NATO missile surveillance liaises seamlessly with the Ukrainian air defense command. Every single launch, aircraft take off etc from Russia is tracked and communicated to Ukraine in real time. For all NATO's "Gosh, I wonder where this could have come from" act in public, they knew the instant of impact where it came from.
"And this is the case because the western mainstream media are the propaganda services of the US-centralized empire. They do not exist to tell people the truth, they exist to manipulate the public into hating the official enemies of the empire and into consenting to foreign policy agendas that they would not otherwise consent to."
There's the rub--we wouldn't consent to the endless proxy wars and wars for oil if it wasn't because of these propagandists. These so-called "journalists" who spin lies and pump out viral exaggerations have the blood of millions on their hands. They should all be in jail.
Referring to the missile as "Russian-made" is misleading at best, for the same reason nobody called the aircraft involved in 9/11 "American-made".
As it was, the missiles were probably made in Soviet Ukraine.
Malaysian Airlines in 2014.
John Kerry " We know where the missile came from", or words similar.
Russia made, Ukraine owned and fired. Everyone knows that including John Kerry.
298 dead.
Now Poland with two dead. Russian made and possibly owned and fired by Ukraine again.
When will we all wake up to the games played by the US and its stooge, Yelenskyy supported by the collection of countries subservient to the US dictates called the North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation, primed and ready to go. Getting anxious to be part of the game.
Sooner or later, the false flag will fly and there is nobody better at it than the exceptional USA.
This morning, NPR did the worst "walk back" of the lies they broadcast. Shortly after the incident, (Tuesday morning, I think) they had an Obama State Department Deputy (high level, not some grunt) flat out state that it was a Russian missile attack and NATO would be considering triggering Article 5 (basically, a formula for WW III).
This AM, they had a RAND corporation "expert" basically walk back that lie, without admitting it was in fact a lie, and then they gave Zelinski a huge pass and again blamed Russian propaganda! Un fucking believable!
BBC writes about War crimes being committed in Ukraine, the dead bodies, the mistreatment of civilians. Big, bold headlines! If you read the entire article and not just the headlines, you will find the sentence « However, the BBC could find no evidence to support these claims ». Too late the misinformation is now viral. In the days when I worked for a well known American publication, nothing was printed until the team of assistant editors had fact checked every quote, every number through multiple different sources. If the majority were in agreement with what was in the article, it got published. If a claim cannot be substantiated, you either make that clear or you don’t publish. That to me is taking the profession seriously!
Thank you Caitlin. And - your husband Tim’s continues to be the absolutely best voice I know among all podcasts !! Pleasant to hear and very professional -- the best delivery imaginable.
If nukes only vaporized cheerleaders for nuclear war, I would be all in for ww3.
Remind me ... is this Hate Week? Is Oceania now at war with Eastasia or Eurasia? ;-)
In the wake of 9/11 a Ukrainian air defense shot down a Russian civilian airplane over Black Sea. As a result rumors circulated the NYC govt was to hire Ukrainians to protect against civilian aircraft.
I think newkraine nUkraine shot that missile as a false flag, not necessarily at Russian incoming...m
The course was too far off target...
I think your article unjustly ignores this probability so I had to stop reading it thereby, but I applaud your efforts I guess
There is a US domestic variant of the North Korea Law Of Journalism.
The closer the story comes to exposing abuses by corporate power, particularly as those abuses are enabled or promoted by Democratic Party controlled government (or deregulation, privatization, corporate subsides, and other Neoliberal policies), then there is the same evidentiary standards operating!
If news media merely applied the same principles to all their sourcing that they apply to Donald Trump, it would help. Routinely when Trump says anything, media feel compelled to add a qualifier such as "baseless" or "without any supporting evidence." The same locutions could be used with nearly any source the media lazily use.
I'm ashamed to admit that I worked in newspaper journalism for 32 years. But one useful thing I learned is that anonymous officials quoted in stories are allowed to offer seemingly independent support for their own comments. For instance, an unnamed US State Dept. official may ask to be identified that way for one comment and then demand to be identified as a "Western diplomat" in another comment in the same story. Hence it sounds as if two independent fatheads are confirming each other when it's only an echo. Reporters routinely go along with the crap.
And as usual the Republicans leaders are DOING NOTHING
....sorry (not really!), ''they'' (populus) deserve this!...as G. Carlin said: EDUCATION IN AMERICA, ..one is educated 'nuff' to put 2 things together, and Sunday beer and footbal.... oops and other few sports, depend on season ...
Well, the death penalty is harsh, which could explain why "a harsh sentence" could be interpreted as a death sentence - if you're very stupid. As for the the Ukraine rocket being identified by the trigger-happy as Russian, it just proves there is a death wish in the air, and we should shut such types down, free speech not-withstanding. NATO's " pause button" with the truth amounts to a gross lie, and criminal negligence.