56 Comments
Dec 3, 2022·edited Dec 3, 2022

They must be getting ready for some pretty heavy-duty suppression of protests and/or riots. Here come the final nails in the coffin of totalitarianism. We are frighteningly complacent while they usher in their plans to have complete control. This is truly scary.

Expand full comment

The basic problem is that people are not empathic enough. Some are, of course, but let me just tell a little story.

I have a friend who runs a grocery store in part of Kansas City, MO, where we live. She notes that they have sky-high murder and other crimes. The population has garbage schools, and if you call the police (in case of violence), they will arrive after about an hour or so.

I was listening to the "Deep Dives with Monica Perez" podcast, and she basically pointed out that if people had enough empathy, we wouldn't have sky-high murder, rape, assault, poverty, and despair in places like central city, KC, MO, USA, for literally 55+ years straight.

it is not the local population's fault. Here is why:

Political consultant Naomi Wolf, who worked for Al Gore, said that when things are shit, they just assumed that was because that was the way politicians wanted it to be that way. As Caitlin has pointed out on numerous occasions:

That is the purpose of propaganda. To sell us a great big shit sandwich, and make us think it is nutritious and delicious.

So, for 55+ years, it appears right to say: the people running KC want it to be poor, isolated, fat, sick, and depressed.

Why? Probably power and money and sex with minors, like Jeffrey Epstein, CIA.

Ultimately, while I realize there are sociopaths who run things (Biden, Pelosi, etc.), the truth of the matter is: if the rest of us had enough empathy, we would:

* Not allow murderous robots;

* Stop crime in places like KC, MO;

* Have real education. I'm a teacher. I can see 500 flaws in our bullshit system;

* Truly help people.

Related: we could probably end world hunger for $7 billion a year. Less if sociopaths would stop making it hard for people to farm.

My thesis is: we need more empathy. That is the root cause of all of these problems we face. Otherwise, how will we stop the sociopaths? And their propaganda?

Expand full comment

I live in northern California not far from San Francisco and this is absolutely insane. The worst part is that this has only been lightly covered by the news here, if at all. When it is covered, people seem to shrug and not care ("I doubt a police robot would actually kill a person") or they are boot lickers and think armed robots controlled by the police are a fabulous idea.

Local governments like those here in northern California dump the majority of their budgets into police and the carceral system. All while there is no safety net at all for regular working taxpayers like me. It's disgusting.

I'm glad to see this article, Caitlin. I thought I was losing my mind by being the only one who's taken notice of this foolishness.

Expand full comment

Because the citizens are so dangerous.

Expand full comment

As I live in the city, I share some observations in the context of the AI killer toys:

1. Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi will be retiring in their home city soon

2. VP Harris announced that SF will be hosting the 2023 APEC Summit (Nov)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/11/18/statement-by-vice-president-kamala-harris-on-selection-of-san-francisco-as-host-city-for-2023-apec-leaders-meeting/

3. SF has a new Chief of Protocol, an Iranian born socialite https://sf.gov/news/mayor-breed-announces-appointment-maryam-muduroglu-new-chief-protocol#:~:text=San%20Francisco%2C%20CA%20%2D%20Mayor%20London,the%20late%20Charlotte%20Mailliard%20Shultz.

4. SF is home to most European oligarchs adult children and attend Hult International Business School https://www.hult.edu/lp/programs/?utm_source=GoogleAdwords&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=hult%20san%20francisco&utm_campaign=PSGG_ALL_MULTI_NORTHAM_US_TRADEMARK_exact&utm_device=t&utm_content=

5. SF & Oakland are creating a new public image to attract biotechnology industry https://news.theregistrysf.com/biotech-biopharma-and-medical-device-companies-are-booming-in-california-and-beyond-require-specialized-spaces/

6. Most billionaires live and roam incognito in SF. And financially wealthy Elder politicians.

The city does not care about solving the consequences of the organized street and drug criminals and hate crimes. The victims and residents are spoon fed with false promises with a smile.

Yes, SF & Oakland have an insidious plan in motion to protect only the very wealthy.

Expand full comment

WhenI first read about the killbot "dogs" I thought, "Ah ha! Now police departments won't have to pay benefits to human officers and cover them for mallpractice. They've got robots to do all the dirty work like killing citizens." Then I thought, "We're really in trouble if we don't prevent them from implementing these killbots everywhere." Let's pray we all live long enough to put an end to these killing machines.

Expand full comment

These abominations will become the norm. But what should follow is that citizens discover a way to fuck them up. Maybe by showering them with magnets, or drenching them in salt water to short circuit their electronic systems, who knows? One thing is for sure, these cop drones are the tools of tyranny, not guardians of Liberty. Much like police forces themselves, really.

Expand full comment
Dec 3, 2022·edited Dec 3, 2022

You are right, Caitlin, to focus on the police use of killer robots. The core of the problem is their use by the military, for it is from there that the technology "trickles down" to the civilian arm of legalized force.

Just recently we have seen an attack on the Russian Naval port at Sevastopol by marine robots. The USA has just announced that they will station 100 robot boats in the Persian Gulf by 2023. The skies in Ukraine are littered with 'copters spotting the enemy or delivering explosive ordinance.

We have moved our technology for killing our fellow human beings along a line; fists, clubs, swords and arrows, muskets, machine guns and artillery, rocket and missiles. To really screw things up, people decided to put nuclear warheads on rockets. All of these required some human interaction. We are now moving towards autonomous robots.

This is pure insanity.

Expand full comment
Dec 3, 2022·edited Dec 3, 2022

We should be screaming so much louder.

Some positive news: Oakland shut down the lethal uses of the robot thanks to civilian police oversight ...

"OPD and Police Commission ad hoc committee on the equipment policy returned to the table and eventually developed a use policy that prohibits offensive use of any of the robot arm attachments, including the pan disruptor. The use policy specifically prohibits arming the pan disruptor with a live round or using it offensively against people. The ground robot can still armed with an OC—pepper—cannister capability, however—though the OPD is restricted on how it can use such weapons."

https://www.patreon.com/posts/oakland-politics-73091001

... thanks in large part to one supremely diligent volunteer member of the public.

"During Wednesday's ad hoc meeting—the last before the City deadline—OPD brought their use policies for various attachments to standard remote controlled ground robots, including the potentially lethal one, the “pan disrupter”. The pan disrupter is a breaching/explosives detonation tool that can be attached to the robot and uses a blank shotgun shell and water pressure system to breach door locks or detonate suspicious packages. During the meeting, a civilian ad hoc member, Jennifer Tu, asked if the device could use live rounds, which would effectively make it a shotgun. The acknowledgment by police representative, Omar Daza-Quiroz, that the device not only could, but that the OPD intended to keep the option of using the device on people in exigent circumstances visibly caught participants by surprise. Ad hoc committee member and Police Commissioner Jesse Hsieh described "shock" learning that the pan disrupter was capable of utilizing live ammunition. When Hsieh asked if the OPD planned on using the lethal capacity, Daza-Quiroz pushed back that the OPD wanted to hold on to that capacity as an ultimate contingency."

https://www.patreon.com/posts/oakland-politics-72455749

Proper reporting credit to Jaime Omar Yassin

https://twitter.com/hyphy_republic

Expand full comment

Two comments. one is that a feature of this technology is that when a bot kills someone, no one will get the badge number; there will be no chance of cop accountability. Yes, someone told the robot to shoot but it will be easy for the cops to hide that person 's identity. My related comment is that I'm more worried about killer drones. I visualize a day when powerful people will be able to track an enemy and have the drone turn the enemy into a puddle of goo. The person's friends, any onlookers, will complain and demand an investigation; then some of them turn into piles of goo. After that no one complains anymore. This is absolute power because the killers can't be brought to justice (but they may turn on each other). It could be that the killer "dogs" (I absolutely agree that making them look a little like dogs and calling them that was deliberate PR) are a practice run, perfecting the killing technology before using it on drones--already in use by the military, perhaps soon to be used by police and then private individuals and of course CORPORATIONS, which have already been involved in "fusion centers" with police in the US. By the time it's really out of hand, there won't be a meaningful distinction between cops, corporate security and private security. And mafia.

Expand full comment

Something interesting is happening with Matt Taibbi having apparently obtained twitter files. Greenwald reporting, Taibbi posting... Fun times are upon us:

- Greenwald: https://rumble.com/embed/v1vx6vs/?pub=puj9q (starts at about 20 minute mark)

- https://taibbi.substack.com/p/note-to-readers-8d4/

Expand full comment

Yeah, was probably a plan all along and why they hate Assange so much.

Expand full comment

Yeah, I was shocked when I saw a military tanker in our police compound while it was being remodeled. We are a way small town. What ever in the world could be a need for that? Well, seems MIC and 1% are planning their revolution and not to our benefit cause we are gonna die off of disease, starvation or drone attacks. Honestly, do not know what is going on in this craziness, but want to move to Russia or China who will at least let me live an "austere" life which is want I want to live anyways so others can too. Food, shelter, clothing, maybe a plot to grow my own vegetables. My ask for Christmas was for a book entitled The Sickness is the System by Richard Wolff. "God help us all for what we have become. God help us all to undo what we have done." From Five Times August.

Expand full comment

Glenn Greenwald Shows Record (2022 -- ):

Dec 2 -- Third GG pre-launch show

https://rumble.com/v1yjc4a-secret-twitter-files-on-censorship-of-hunter-biden-story.html -- Secret Twitter Files on Censorship of Hunter Biden Story – (episode STARTS at 20 minute – IMPORTANT)

https://greenwald.locals.com/post/3148900/system-update-watch-tonight-12-2 -- two episodes:

-- Elon Musk's banning of Kanye West from Twitter

-- An OUTSTANDING interview -- the Assange case with WIkiLeaks' editor-in-chief Kristinn Hrafnsson.

Tucker Carlson: -- https://youtu.be/9RsedoC_PN4 - James Woods: “Elon Musk may have saved America”

-- https://youtu.be/fzc7o1zdhYw -- Twitter was permanently censoring users at the request of the DNC and Biden campaign

-- https://youtu.be/vDtUVkmm-oY -- Tucker Carlson Tonight 12/2/22 (not full – full is 45 minutres)

-- Tucker Carlson Tonight – Oct. 4 ( OUTSTANDING interview with Biden’s family former business partner – Tony Bobulinski) -- Oct. 4 -- https://odysee.com/@TheRepository:f/tucker-bobulinski2-1:d

Nov 29 -- Third GG pre-launch show

https://rumble.com/v1y5672-how-many-different-countries-should-the-us-now-be-fixing-changing-and-inter.html - How Many Different Countries Should the US Now Be Fixing, Changing, and Interfering In?

Q&A -- https://greenwald.locals.com/upost/3134215/post-show-q-a

Unedited (1.5 hour long) - https://greenwald.locals.com/upost/3132537/system-update-join-us-tonight-at-7pm-et

Nov 25 – Second GG pre-launch show

https://rumble.com/v1xbl8g-the-medias-deranged-hysteria-over-elon-musks-restoration-of-free-speech.html -- The Media’s Deranged Hysteria Over Elon Musk’s Restoration of Free Speech

Sub-stack transcript -- https://substack.com/inbox/post/87024368

Nov. 16 -- First GG pre-launch show

https://greenwald.locals.com/upost/3069918/pre-launch-q-a

Q&A -- https://greenwald.locals.com/upost/3069918/pre-launch-q-a

NO transcripts

Expand full comment

I would encourage reading John Whiteheads Battlefield America. If you think that this sort of policing will not affect you, think again.

Expand full comment