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This mentality that somehow Putin is the resurrection of Hitler, and anyone who says negotiations must occur is compared to Chamberlain and labeled pro-Putin -- is just flat-out insane.

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This is entirely intentional. The US actively seeks to undermine peace.

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The war was not only provoked but made inevitable, as Ben Abelow has laid out succinctly in a new book called "How the West Bought War to Ukraine." The US overthrew the democratically elected govt in 2014, installed a US puppet neo-Nazi regime, refused to force their puppet to implement Minsk 2, refused to intervene in the war of terror against the Russian-speaking inhabitants of eastern Ukraine, armed the puppet to the hilt with NATO weapons and training, and stood by while the puppet army gathered for a massive strike against the already beleaguerd eastern provinces. None of this, or the many speeches of Putin and Lavrov, made it past the Western media filters to the general public, who were led to believe, and still believe, that the war start in Feb. 24.

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Just A Song Before We Go Join The Circus

Before 2020, when Crim Joe encouraged parents to “play the record player to your kids at night.”

In fact, before record players existed, parents and kids used to pay to see daring young men work without a safety net-and sang this song, with slightly different lyrics.

🎶Once we were happy, but now are forlorn

Like the country that’s tattered and torn

Left in this wide world to fret and to mourn

Betrayed by Big Tech and the Greens

He lies o’er the air with the greatest of sleaze

That glaring old man in the leaking nappies

His movements smell awful, demented disease

Our lives he purloined away!🎶

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Peace is not an option; it is THE answer.

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Peace was never an option

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“the human species has a vested interest in de-escalation and detente right away” - I doubt that species have any interest, the way we understand it, but humans, indeed should. What bothers me is the claim that Putin ‘threatens’ to use nuclear weapons. Actually, if you read his text, he does not. He only says that IFF (if and only if) those weapons are used against Russia, he will retaliate. Anyway, thank you. As usual, nice reflections on the madness of today’s world.

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100% true, Caitlin.

Here is Mollie Hemingway on the subject:

MOLLIE HEMINGWAY: Just today we had the U.N. Security Council vote on that draft resolution to condemn these sham referendums that Russia did in these regions. In fact, we didn't have a very good coalition. China abstained from voting, India, who is supposed to be our friend abstained from voting. Brazil abstained from voting and then Russia vetoed it.

We have been hearing from the Biden administration that we have united the world against Russia. That's clearly not true. Already the Middle East has kind of worked with Russia as well. We might be in a cold war but there is a hot war going on right now. And it seems that a lot of people, whether it's Joe Biden or Liz Cheney keep wanting to escalate and ratchet things up in response to Putin's ratcheting of things up.

I think they need to be told to stop. People need to think about what our national interest is. The American people do not want war in Europe. We have already given $67 billion in aid and weapons. We have a horrible economy. We have grocery prices that are out of control. We have an energy crisis. We have our own problems on our border. And we need some statesmen here to step up and think about how we can end this without -- I mean, people talk as if nuclear conflict is not a big deal. It's a horrible thing and we should be working to stop that. -- Oct. 1, 2022

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Oct 2, 2022·edited Oct 2, 2022

The whole notion that Putin somehow is a madman does not make sense. If he really is, what prevents him from nuking all of Europe and East coast? He has the technical capability to do so. Yes, there will be a retaliation, but he is a madman after all, what would he care, he will just hide in some bunker somewhere and let Russian peasants die. "They" literally are betting on him being extremely self-restrained with all the relentless demonization and poking the bear just proving who the real madmen are. And, if you are dealing with an armed and dangerous madman, aren't we supposed to de-escalate the situation by talking to him, etc etc?

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Most commentators have conceded that Putin was provoked: it's not easy to see Russia's complete encirclement, incasement actually, by NATO any other way, as well seeing its assets, in its hour of need, sold off for pennies to Western interests. But it's a question of how far can or should provocation go before becomes justification, before it triggers justified reaction. And, apparently many people didn't see the events between the dissolution of the USSR up to the coup of 2014, the failure to implement the Minsk I and II Accords and the murder of 14,000 ethnic Russians in the Donbas since then as "sufficiently" provocative. There is apparently some very subtle science involved, some imperceptible conjunction of elements and forces that spells "now". But it seems more the case that human instinct and reason has sway here: patience, yes, but too much patience encourages the worst instincts in some people. If Putin had more patience in this he'd be canonized a saint. But that wouldn't help Russia. For Putin, that argument is well over. It's a question of dealing in good faith with the results forced by the West, to find the best way forward.

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Oct 2, 2022·edited Oct 2, 2022

Even *if* Putin is another Hitler, another Stalin - a *madman* bent on maniacally destroying the world.

You would think ... you would think they might come up with a better way to fix the problem than blow up a multi-billion dollar pipeline to Europe, and risk nuclear exchanges that could escalate to who knows what.

You would think saner minds could figure this out, even if *everything* they say is true about Putin. But it isn't. Their agenda is war no matter the cost - and the cost will be rivers of human bodies and untold destruction that has already begun in Europe. Will any one of these people in power, any one of them stand up and try to stop this lunacy? That could very well get us all killed, including themselves?

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Vladimir Putin is neither crazy nor stupid. He is methodical, and intelligent, and is acutely aware of the danger the unhinged, war-hungry, power-crazed Western oligarchy poses to those sovereign nations who refuse to be ruled by them.

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Another common argument I've often heard goes like this: Russia WAS provoked for eight years by Russia-hating Ukrainians, but Putin was STILL wrong to invade. So, with the US/UK refusing to allow Ukraine to negotiate, as attacks on the ethnic Russians in the Donbass intensified into genocide, Putin shouldn't have tried to stop it by military means. Does anyone else see the contradiction in that argument? The cognitive dissonance? When faced with an implacable, fanatic, unreasonable foe like US/NATO sometimes war is preferable to a peace that's worse than death.

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I think that this is all fore play to the US killing its own citizens by the millions using whatever means, and then telling the survivors that Russia did it. Even the ordinary citizens here are as obnoxious as can be, their minds are diseased and good only for cattle feed.

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The US/NATO are too afraid to confront Russia head on because they lack the ability to supply the kind of munitions to engage for more than 8 -10 days based on present stocks (At the rate of use in Ukraine, this is equivalent to a years production in the US...'sorry, we're all of stock for Javelins, M777 etc..come back next year').

That is why the west were saying Russia would run out of ammo by March. They think, because their "intelligence' services and Military are led by morons, that Russia is like the US/UK/NATO...in its level of incompetence regarding production (Russia's MIC is centralised and produces based on defense and yes, they have all they need for self-sufficient production based on all out war, not skirmishes with the Jihad, flip-flops and AK47 brigade, that the USA's 'finest', the 173rd Airbourne, have been fighting for 20 years in Afghan and Iraq and..er...losing to). They need some history lessons...start with Napoleon, then a bit of Kaiser Wilhelm II...and end the lesson in a bunker in Berlin with Herr Hitler....all learned painful career/life ending lessons attacking Russia through Ukraine..when will they ever learn? Never..because they are as stupid as they are insane. MORE SANCTIONS!

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